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    blood test results pre-cycle..please help me make sense

    hey guys..
    got my bloods back today..i am not expert but my test seems very low and my liver/kidney values seem elevated... tested were cholesterol, kidney, liver, free test, total test, estradiol, lh, fsh..

    total cholesterol 116.6 mg/dl (140-239)
    total protein 75.4 g/L (60-85)
    albumin 44.2 g/l (35-55)
    globulin 31.2 g/l (25-35)
    a/f ratio 1.4 (0.8 -2.3)
    total billirubin 0.78 mg/dl (0.2 -1.4)
    alkaline phosphate 183/4 u/l (98-279)
    Alt (sgpt) 79.7 u/l (0-40)
    Ast (sgot) 59.9 u/l (0-50)

    gamma gt 23.4 u/l (7-50)
    urea 59.5 mg/dl (10-50)
    blood urea nitrogen (BUN) 27.8 mg/dl (4.7-23.4)

    creatinine 0.92 mg/dl (0.5-1.5)
    calcium ionized 1.14 mmol/l (1.12-1.32)
    IN phosporous 4.21 mg/dl (2.7-4.5)
    uric acid 3.6 mg/dl (2.4-7.0)
    co2 24.6 mmol/l 23-29)
    sodium (NA) 137mmol/l (135-148)
    potasium 4.26 mmol/l (3.6-5.0)
    chloride 100mmol/l (95-106)

    total testosterone 2.74 ng/ml (2.62-15.93)
    free testosteron 2.80 pg/ml (5.5-42)
    estradiol 9.00 pg/ml (20-77)
    fsh 6.76 miu/ml (0.7 -11.1)
    LH 2.03 miu/ml (0.8-7.6)


    so whats all this mean? looks like lh, fsh, and test figures are are very low. estradiol is also very low..probably because test is so low. its been almost a year since my last cycle which was 8 week hdrol (100mg)+bold(1.2g)+ sdrol(15mg/day ...2 week kick start). pct was clomid/nolva (pharma grade)..

    i figured i would have recovered after all this time. the only supplements i was using at the time drew blood last week was 'Anabeta' from PES (not sure if this would affect anything). the last 3-4 months i was making good gains natty too.

    i dont know what other details you guys would need...i just started my test-e + hdrol @100mg for firt 6 weeks) cycle 2 days ago..did the first shot already..what should i do???

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    Do you drink?

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    damn looks like your natty production is shot.....you might be looking at HRT for the rest of your life

    you drink alot? those liver enzymes are nasty

    shoot your precycle bloodwork looks like post cycle bloodwork

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    Total test is less than free test? Is that because of different units of measure?

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    Take a month off supps and retest.

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    Either way this isn't cool if you went a year clean. Do NOT let kidney problems go untreated. You need a professional ASAP if this is your baseline. We can offer nothing, really.

    This is why you get bloods... and so many high values, unless you're using rec drugs... no good for a year off.

    Again, get off everything, see a doctor.
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    i dont drink guys..maybe 2-3 times a year max.

    i do smoke marijuana once (sometimes twice) a week..so i don't know if this affected the results this adversely.

    i am most worried about the liver enzymes. i will try to make an appointment with the doc to get that checked out.

    what do i do now...i've already done one test-e pin and one hcg pin...been on hdrol @75mg also for this length of time. do i do some sort of pct in 2 weeks ? keep using hcg till pct starts?

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    also is there a website which i can read up on HRT/TRT etc? i've come across a few sites..but most are very vague about what is done..looking for more details because i am not really familiar with it and i want to know more about it..that way i can ask my doc questions when i go to see him..

    also my daughter was born 8 weeks ago..so we've been having many sleepless nights..i've been workout through all this some how..so can this kind of stress affect my hormone levels? maybe not this badly..but in some way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownchoclit View Post
    total testosterone 2.74 ng/ml (2.62-15.93)
    free testosteron 2.80 pg/ml (5.5-42)
    estradiol 9.00 pg/ml (20-77)
    fsh 6.76 miu/ml (0.7 -11.1)
    LH 2.03 miu/ml (0.8-7.6)


    so whats all this mean? looks like lh, fsh, and test figures are are very low. estradiol is also very low..probably because test is so low.
    Total test, FSH and LH are within normal limits. Free test and estrogen are both oddly low. High SHBG?
    I don't know why you have hypocholesterolemia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Total test, FSH and LH are within normal limits. Free test and estrogen are both oddly low. High SHBG?
    I don't know why you have hypocholesterolemia.
    It looks like on cycle bloodwork results to me.... It's possible anabeta is androgenic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Total test, FSH and LH are within normal limits. Free test and estrogen are both oddly low. High SHBG?
    I don't know why you have hypocholesterolemia.
    LoL oops the unit of measure threw me off. I was like wtf double digits.

    Wish we had hdl ldl split. Kinda curious there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownchoclit View Post
    i dont drink guys..maybe 2-3 times a year max.

    i do smoke marijuana once (sometimes twice) a week..so i don't know if this affected the results this adversely

    i am most worried about the liver enzymes. i will try to make an appointment with the doc to get that checked out.

    what do i do now...i've already done one test-e pin and one hcg pin...been on hdrol @75mg also for this length of time. do i do some sort of pct in 2 weeks ? keep using hcg till pct starts?
    I just told you this a post up. Come off, see a doctor. Are you hoping for a different answer? If you get that recommendation and ask again because you want someone to tell you to ride it out then just do it. It's your body. But you know what the health conscious choice is.

    There's no way to assess other factors if you're gonna cycle anyway so don't bother asking if you aren't gonna come off and try to find out. Do you want to get your health checked out or do you want to roll the dice? I mean, I can guess its a combination of that otc product you took and your lack of sleep, but its really a totally uneducated guess and does you no good. And taking a toxic oral with a high baseline liver value, and injecting test with a low total test level is probably pretty stupid if you really want to know what's going on.

    And trt is pretty basic. What do you want to know? Probably get 100-150 mg of test a week, with hcg the day before your pin if you get a cool doc.
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    will be seeing some docs in the next couple of days...prolly run more test..

    dont know about anabeta..but i was making some good progress on it though..i managed to add 30lbs to my squat believe or not and increase other poundages too in some way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Hook View Post
    It looks like on cycle bloodwork results to me.... It's possible anabeta is androgenic.
    On cycle testing usually shows below normal LH, FSH, total test, high cholesterol, and often high estrogen. This doesn't look like that to me.
    I don't even know what is in anabeta.

    Quote Originally Posted by brownchoclit View Post
    will be seeing some docs in the next couple of days...prolly run more test..
    Good plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownchoclit View Post
    will be seeing some docs in the next couple of days...prolly run more test..

    dont know about anabeta..but i was making some good progress on it though..i managed to add 30lbs to my squat believe or not and increase other poundages too in some way or another.
    Might want to wait 2 weeks for the test-e to clear. also, don't tell the doc's about any prior hormone usage.

    Did you get baseline, bloods done before any hormone usage? Without that it's difficult to say what is "normal" for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j3ff_beck View Post
    Might want to wait 2 weeks for the test-e to clear. also, don't tell the doc's about any prior hormone usage.

    Did you get baseline, bloods done before any hormone usage? Without that it's difficult to say what is "normal" for you.
    hey bro..no unfortunately this is the first time i have got bloods done. wish i had very much though

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