Originally Posted by StimBrah

Rokavelli's avatar should be the new facepalm

Go check some blood work on someone at the end of a 4 week havoc run

Hahaha

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Originally Posted by Rokavelli

2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol (Havoc/Epistane) Also written as: 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-adrostan

Trade names include Havoc/Epistane Common Dosages: 30mg to 40mg daily Common Cycle Length: 4-5 Weeks Methylated: Yes Half-Life: Average (6-8 hours)

A designer steroid and legal alternative to anabolic and androgenic steroids.

Epistane is a methylated version of the controlled substance Epitiostanol (2±,3±-Epithio-5±-androstan-17²-ol), created in the 1960's and used as a treatment for breast cancer. Chemists added a methyl group to the compound to create the product known as Epistane. Epistane is a sulfur containing steroid which is known to have strong and long lasting anti-estrogenic activity as well as weak androgenic and mytropic activities.

Since it is anti-estrogenic, you can expect very dry gains from this compound. Epistane has low androgenic to anabolic activity, meaning it is much more anabolic then androgenic. Even though users will see dry gains on Epistane it does not mean that it would be any insufficient for a bulking cycle.

Side effects are typically minimal to non existent.

http://prohormonedb.com/view-ingredi.../Epistane)&i=1



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That doesn't help anything you originally stated.

Alright then forget it. If that don't help validate anything I don't think anything will.

As the great Socrates said: All I know is that I know nothing.

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Originally Posted by Grambo

Rok I'm at work so can't elaborate too much but basically it's a steroid and doesn't have SERM action. The original compound before methylation was studied as an anti-estrogen but changing the chemical structure radically changes the actions. It needs PCT even thought doesn't aromatize and may or may not have some anti-estrogen potential. It still shuts down HPTA.

Thank you for elaborating. It's just hard to believe that it would change its chemical structure by that much its basically a whole new chemical. Ok then thanks again for taking the time from work to write all that.

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I like nolva. Gives u a nice test boost. Doesn't let u get boobs. It's very nice. However I still wanna try arimedex. That'll b for next cutting regime. Right in time for summer.


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yes lol. They have diff names(arimedex Anastrozole nolva clomi-something or other citrate). That's. Dead give away. Speaking of dead. Everyone enjoying the walking dead. Am I the only one that hates that blonde Bitch.

And yeah arimidex i agree is a bit more risque. If u will. But I think for cutting n getting Lil to no water its beat choice. I prolly wouldn't take it for a ph pct though. Maybe a test+Winn+dbol stack. Lol.

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