Im supposing ur running havoc.

....but for everyone who doesnt know u, explain!!! Bish

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No!
U run it since day 19 of cycle!

nOOb

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Im leaner for the weight.

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Oh, and natty :P

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Only bitches use pct

Originally Posted by StimBrah

Only bitches use pct

This^
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Torem = Best IMO

Yeah, I'd probably go 6 weeks if your bottle lasts that long.

U don't need pct for havoc. I always started at 10 days before cycle over as well. At 20 for first 3 weeks then down to 10. Depends on what I took. Some products don't have a serious effect on your Natural test production. Nor aromatise. N the chemical in havoc was original used as a serm(used for breastcancer same as nolva) itself. Ur just gonna pct with the same type of product. In fact nolva is prolly stronger then havoc but can't say I've done enough research on its chemically to be 100% sure. Just going of the fact that havoc is legal to freely buy n nolva isn't so common sense tells me it might be stronger. But I believe the chemical in havoc was also suppose to block estrogen production a bit as well. That's why its best for leaning. Bla bla bla n so on. The end.

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Originally Posted by Rokavelli

U don't need pct for havoc. I always started at 10 days before cycle over as well. At 20 for first 3 weeks then down to 10. Depends on what I took. Some products have no real effect on you Nat test production. Nor aromatise. N the chemical in havoc was original used as a serm itself. Ur just gonna pct with the same type of product. In fact nolva is prolly stronger then havoc. But I believe the chemical in havoc was also suppose to block estrogen production a bit as well. That's why its best for leaning. Bla bla bla n so on. The end.

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I hope you're kidding...

Nah I'm not kidding.

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I guess one part can be miss interpreted. Let me edit that.

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Ok I don't think its open to miss interpretation anymore.

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Originally Posted by Rokavelli

U don't need pct for havoc. I always started at 10 days before cycle over as well. At 20 for first 3 weeks then down to 10. Depends on what I took. Some products don't have a serious effect on your Natural test production. Nor aromatise. N the chemical in havoc was original used as a serm(used for breastcancer same as nolva) itself. Ur just gonna pct with the same type of product. In fact nolva is prolly stronger then havoc but can't say I've done enough research on its chemically to be 100% sure. Just going of the fact that havoc is legal to freely buy n nolva isn't so common sense tells me it might be stronger. But I believe the chemical in havoc was also suppose to block estrogen production a bit as well. That's why its best for leaning. Bla bla bla n so on. The end.

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No, to pretty much everything you said.

No offence.

2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol (Havoc/Epistane) Also written as: 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-adrostan

Trade names include Havoc/Epistane Common Dosages: 30mg to 40mg daily Common Cycle Length: 4-5 Weeks Methylated: Yes Half-Life: Average (6-8 hours)

A designer steroid and legal alternative to anabolic and androgenic steroids.

Epistane is a methylated version of the controlled substance Epitiostanol (2±,3±-Epithio-5±-androstan-17²-ol), created in the 1960's and used as a treatment for breast cancer. Chemists added a methyl group to the compound to create the product known as Epistane. Epistane is a sulfur containing steroid which is known to have strong and long lasting anti-estrogenic activity as well as weak androgenic and mytropic activities.

Since it is anti-estrogenic, you can expect very dry gains from this compound. Epistane has low androgenic to anabolic activity, meaning it is much more anabolic then androgenic. Even though users will see dry gains on Epistane it does not mean that it would be any insufficient for a bulking cycle.

Side effects are typically minimal to non existent.

http://prohormonedb.com/view-ingredients.asp?n=2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol+(Havoc/Epistane)&i=1



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Rokavelli's avatar should be the new facepalm

Go check some blood work on someone at the end of a 4 week havoc run

What should I expect

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I was just mentioning the basic science of the chemical. What a person blood work may show after is a different story. N those results may vary. From person to person. But never the less what should one expect. I'm do a blood test soon I wanna rememeber to pay attention to such.

Actually Nah nm the results will be faulty cause I'm taking this other stuff now. never the less though. For next time. If there is a next time that is.

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Plus I don't wanna shock any one but did u guys find out how they research ibe epsitane n they found a diff chem in it. Those cheating jerks.

Actually ran into that info while I was searching for that link of the ph database cause I forgot the website.

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