I don't think this new prohormone has been discussed much here thus far. Since I'm no longer willing to purchase controlled substances this one has my attention (until it's controlled).

It is basically "trendione " or a one step precursor to Trenbolone. It likely has shitty bioavailability like most ph's but it helps that it converts to one of the most powerful hormones ever. So even a shitty bioavailability should result in generally good response.

Still I think at least 75mgs per day will be needed, which will get expensive.

Other thoughts?

*I know a lot of people hate the company producing it. If we could just leave that aside and focus on the compound itself it would be appreciated (no homo).

Originally Posted by csabatka1

I'm on the outside looking in from the whole 'hate this company', but they have serious balls to putting out products like Trenavar, ph to dbol, Boladrol, ect. Then they add to it by openly having a peptide/research company as a board sponsor. It's just a matter of time before the Feds break up their little party, they're bringing too much attention to PH's.

I agree. What do you think about the compound itself though?

Originally Posted by iPenetratah

As far as the delivery system go, this one cat mkcgidddfplacebo has it figured out.

That guy has free will

Originally Posted by csabatka1

I'll probably try some, if their tests come back that it's legit and pure. Trenbolone is one of the strongest hormones out there, so this PH converts to a fraction of trenbolone, it'll be a great cycle.

I'll try and look up the synthesis procedures. It's likely synthesized from actual Trenbolone which means it may end up with actual tren in it.

Makes me wonder to if just swallowing fina pellets would be just as cost effective.

Originally Posted by csabatka1

I'm on the outside looking in from the whole 'hate this company', but they have serious balls to putting out products like Trenavar, ph to dbol, Boladrol, ect. Then they add to it by openly having a peptide/research company as a board sponsor. It's just a matter of time before the Feds break up their little party, they're bringing too much attention to PH's.

PHF and the sponsor are one in the same also. In regards to the tren..didn't BA say 30mg to 50mg range Righthook?

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Originally Posted by BigCLS

PHF and the sponsor are one in the same also. In regards to the tren..didn't BA say 30mg to 50mg range Righthook?

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Yep. Which at 30mg per day should make a bottle last 30 days. He was basing that off logs i think. IMO that's too low.

Originally Posted by Right Hook

Yep. Which at 30mg per day should make a bottle last 30 days. He was basing that off logs i think. IMO that's too low.

Ten 4..was curious as I haven't even read any of the logs

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Well, if the product is what they claim it has some potential... With the current climate towards this type of item it will get them some attention. Tooo bad some might be unwanted.

Looks like one bottle might be good for single cycle. Hopefully they actually have enough stock for sale as claimed...

Originally Posted by iPenetratah

Bioavailability is pretty shitty, so you would have to eat a lot of them, and then you have the fillers.

If you went that route it would best just to home brew it.

Bioavailability is likely going to be better than a precursor. The fillers are not an issue from what I recall. They are only an issue if injected.

Originally Posted by Right Hook

I'll try and look up the synthesis procedures. It's likely synthesized from actual Trenbolone which means it may end up with actual tren in it.

Makes me wonder to if just swallowing fina pellets would be just as cost effective.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....You don't know what it's sythesized from but it's likely actual trenbolone? LOLOLOLOL. You're not trying to sell shitty products or anything. If it has actual tren in it it's illegal. If it was synthesized from tren, the synthesis, the sale, and the marketing are illegal. There's a reason people don't swallow it. No trenbolone product on the market has come close to real trenbolone, even before the ban. You should go back to pushing the fake 4-ad crap you hailed as actual testosterone.

Originally Posted by DinnersReady

If it was synthesized from tren, the synthesis, the sale, and the marketing are illegal.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Originally Posted by henryv

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Careful there Limey. Do not get toooo feisty. You might hurt someones feelings!

lol.

Btw. Pre sale is on now.

Fwiw....

Originally Posted by DinnersReady

Righthook negged me and called me an asshole for pointing out the truth. LOL, to bad he doesn't have the balls to say it here where everyone can read it.

I want to keep it on topic.

Originally Posted by TheYoungBlood

Btw. Pre sale is on now.

Fwiw....

Saw that, 60 caps at 15mg per cap for 45 bucks.