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I need STIMS!
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Reputation: 1 Array So at the end of this month I'm going to place an order from lockout and I was wondering what should I try
I need STIMS!
Reputation: 6 Array In order of preference, for stim products.
APS Mesomorph
Omega Flashover
MAN Swagger
Clearshot concentrate
DS Craze
Maximize V2
One of these should do the trick
Last edited by Deleted; 01-02-2012 at 03:29 PM.
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Originally Posted by Deleted
great list
Reputation: 1 Array I tried the old formula of mesomorph and it was great but I remember one of their reps, or old rep now, on AM told me the new formula is worst.
I thought Maximize V2 was insanely stimulated?
Thanks for the list bro
Max V2 is super stimulated
DS Craze is very nice and different
Of course Purus Muscle Marinade
Definitely have heard mesomorph is not what is was before.
Reputation: 6 Array i have read that old version does not contain stimulant but had Icariin and Thiamizine.
I've ordered like 2 months ago on nutraplanet mine, and it got stims, Icariin and Thiamizine.
edit : ok, old version seem to be better for stim, new better for pump. IDK
I don't like much MM , you should have other thing than just DMAA and caffeine for stims. Also 1g of Vit C, 6g of creatine, 50mg Zinc.
Last edited by Deleted; 01-03-2012 at 04:50 AM.
Reputation: 23296 Array The strongest out there is hemorage uc by nutrex...
Reputation: 62104 Array Nutrex is still is business? lol
Reputation: 11049 Array Honestly Neurocore by muscletech is awesome
Reputation: 11883 Array If branch uses it then so will i
Reputation: 1 Array Actually nutrex sent me a container of hemo and it was ok.
Branch also uses lr3 or des I'm sure and those are some GOOD stuff.
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anyway, des kinda sucks. still on the fence about lr3, but I wanna run 100% certain legit shit. Seems everything is bunk nowadays.
Reputation: 11049 Array Yeah legit IGF would be expensive as fuck
anyway, des kinda sucks. still on the fence about lr3, but I wanna run 100% certain legit shit. Seems everything is bunk nowadays.
Reputation: 132 Array I can offer SAN Launch samples, if I'm allowed. :tiptoe:
Last edited by poison; 01-06-2012 at 11:11 PM.
Reputation: 6 Array is it me or there is more caffeine than creatine nitrate in it ?
WTF ?
also how much of NAcTyr , caffeine and Creatine nitrate per serving ?
Reputation: 132 Array Yes, there is more. The formula is proprietary, so I can't give exact numbers. However, it's mainly a stim/nootropic formula. Seeing as nitrates can increase sensitivity to stims, in addition to increasing endurance, I'd say it's an interesting addition. Add in that realistically there could be 250mg creatine nitrate, with 50% being nitrates. 125mg nitrates is not an insignificant amount.
I've used it, as have many others. It's a strong, crash-free (for most people) formula. Energy and focus is awesome, and pumps are awesome. I can link a bunch of reviews from bb.com, but if you're curious, why not just try it?
In the interest of honesty, IMO, it's SAN's best energy formula, if crazy energy and focus are your thing, but it's not SAN's best pre. I'll put it up against any other highly stimmed formula on the market (not that it's the most highly stimmed, that's a cheap thrill; but it is the best IMO). But with my main goal being crazy stamina and explosive strength, to further my judo/grappling goals, Fierce is a FAR better preworkout in every other way: strength, endurance, pumps, and energy, but with no cardio hit taken from 1,3d, and zero crash ever.
Fierce: 16.4gr per serving (with ~14gr actives, zero carbs); 4.8gr creatine; 200mg caffeine; around 1gr creatine nitrate, maybe a bit more; and fat doses of malic acid, tyrosine, glucoronolactone, l-aspartic acid, and more. 50 full servings for ~$35, and you never need more than 1 scoop. Reviews are ridiculously positive.
We have samples of that too. Oh, and here are Launch pills:
See? SAN's got optionzzz.
Last edited by poison; 01-07-2012 at 11:50 AM.
Reputation: 40777 Array SAN FIERCE or white flood v2? who wins bro
what if you sprinkle some of your coffee in there
Reputation: 132 Array Uh-oh, a stalker.
Reputation: 28658 Array I'll take a sample. Just bought hemo rage uc after a week of trying to figure out what I was gonna buy but I will be out of that in a month or two.
Reputation: 132 Array PM me your address!
If anyone else wants, check out the thread I just put up in the company promo section.
Reputation: 45 Array Sweet thrad is sweet.
I'm here now, and I'm a total noob
Reputation: 132 Array Not a total noob. Your physique and lifts tell another story.
Reputation: 502 Array I really like taking 1 cap of Betancourt Ripped Juice Ex2 with 1 scoop white flood. It gives me a awesome pump and sustained energy w/o the crash of Jack3d or 1mr.
Reputation: 45 Array haha thanks... noob to the board then.Not a total noob. Your physique and lifts tell another story.
Reputation: 6 Array Launch does not look bad
however, adding 50mg of creatine nitrate is just ... well, stupid.
Launch pills look better than the powdered version, why is it not the same formula ?
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