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pics of yourself to prove it doesn't work, i was like
This is a discussion on TrueProtein's Lean Beef Aminos within the Supplement Discussion forums, part of the Supplements category; Originally Posted by Beejis60 pics of yourself to prove it doesn't work, i was like Coincidentally enough, this was the ...
Reputation: 86 Array Coincidentally enough, this was the same thing that was said to mepics of yourself to prove it doesn't work, i was like
Last edited by Powercage; 01-25-2012 at 08:41 AM.
Reputation: 12559 Array shush
thats where i am hiding my last bottle of 1-ad
Reputation: 912 Array those fuckers would do miserably on the LSAT for sure with that argument.Same thing happened to me years ago on a small local forum when I was pwning phildo herman with this info, everyone and himself included, was like it works brah, post pics of yourself to prove it doesn't work, i was like
Reputation: 11883 Array Does anyone think that the hype related to lba's by Phil and others may not be related to a better source of protein but rather an ability to train harder due to reduced joint pain?
Reference PMID 18416885
Reputation: 11883 Array Abstract
24-Week study on the use of collagen hydrolysate as a dietary supplement in athletes with activity-related joint pain.
Clark KL, et al. Show all
Curr Med Res Opin. 2008 May;24(5):1485-96. Epub 2008 Apr 15.
Department of Nutrition and Sports Nutrition for Athletics, Penn State University, University Park, PA 16802, USA. klc5@psu.edu
Abstract BACKGROUND: Collagen hydrolysate is a nutritional supplement that has been shown to exert an anabolic effect on cartilage tissue. Its administration appears beneficial in patients with osteoarthritis.
OBJECTIVE: To investigate the effect of collagen hydrolysate on activity-related joint pain in athletes who are physically active and have no evidence of joint disease.
DESIGN AND SETTING: A prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind study was conducted at Penn State University in University Park, Pennsylvania. Parameters including joint pain, mobility, and inflammation were evaluated with the use of a visual analogue scale during a 24-week study phase.
STUDY PARTICIPANTS: Between September 2005 and June 2006, 147 subjects who competed on a varsity team or a club sport were recruited. Data from 97 of 147 subjects could be statistically evaluated.
INTERVENTION: One hundred and forty-seven subjects (72 male, 75 female) were randomly assigned to two groups: a group (n = 73) receiving 25 mL of a liquid formulation that contained 10 g of collagen hydrolysate (CH-Alpha) and a group (n = 74) receiving a placebo, which consisted of 25 mL of liquid that contained xanthan.
MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: The primary efficacy parameter was the change in the visual analogue scales from baseline during the study phase in relation to the parameters referring to pain, mobility, and inflammation.
RESULTS: When data from all subjects (n = 97) were evaluated, six parameters showed statistically significant changes with the dietary supplement collagen hydrolysate (CH) compared with placebo: joint pain at rest, assessed by the physician (CH vs. placebo (-1.37 +/- 1.78 vs. -0.90 +/- 1.74 (p = 0.025)) and five parameters assessed by study participants: joint pain when walking (-1.11 +/- 1.98 vs. -0.46 +/-1.63, p = 0.007), joint pain when standing (-0.97 +/-1.92 vs. -0.43 +/- 1.74, p = 0.011), joint pain at rest (-0.81 +/- 1.77 vs. -0.39 +/- 1.56, p = 0.039), joint pain when carrying objects (-1.45 +/- 2.11 vs. -0.83 +/- 1.71, p = 0.014) and joint pain when lifting (-1.79 +/- 2.11 vs. -1.26 +/- 2.09, p = 0.018). When a subgroup analysis of subjects with knee arthralgia (n = 63) was performed, the difference between the effect of collagen hydrolysate vs. placebo was more pronounced. The parameter joint pain at rest, assessed by the physician, had a statistical significance level of p = 0.001 (-1.67 +/- 1.89 vs. -0.86 +/- 1.77), while the other five parameters based on the participants' assessments were also statistically significant: joint pain when walking (p = 0.003 (-1.38 +/- 2.12 vs. -0.54 +/- 1.65)), joint pain when standing (p = 0.015 (-1.17 +/- 2.06 vs. -0.50 +/- 1.68)), joint pain at rest with (p = 0.021 (-1.01 +/-1.92 vs. -0.47 +/- 1.63)), joint pain when running a straight line (p = 0.027 (-1.50 +/- 1.97 vs. -0.80 +/-1.66)) and joint pain when changing direction (p = 0.026 (-1.87 +/- 2.18 vs. -1.20 +/- 2.10)).
CONCLUSION: This was the first clinical trial of 24-weeks duration to show improvement of joint pain in athletes who were treated with the dietary supplement collagen hydrolysate. The results of this study have implications for the use of collagen hydrolysate to support joint health and possibly reduce the risk of joint deterioration in a high-risk group. Despite the study's size and limitations, the results suggest that athletes consuming collagen hydrolysate can reduce parameters (such as pain) that have a negative impact on athletic performance. Future studies are needed to support these findings.
PMID 18416885 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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gelatin is supposed to be helpful for joints but i dont think its gonna be THAT good
coincidentally i have been eating jello before my workouts for the past 2 months or so. Not because of the jello per se, but because flavored jello is the only way i can mask something else that is completely nasty
Last edited by Patrick Arnold; 01-30-2012 at 03:43 PM.
Reputation: 62104 Array Dirty asshole?
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