Originally Posted by Dr.Abs

what difference does it make where it comes from ? srs.
if it works, that's what matters.

I'm worried if I'm putting something in my body that may have long term negative effects or even if there are some negative effects taking place that may may not be noticeable. I was a little weirded out that I'm drinking cow fetus blood - it just doesn't sound normal.. and I wonder if it is produced in sanitary conditions etc. And is cow fetus blood even good/bad for you? I don't know. Basically - I'm concerned about more than the gains right now

Originally Posted by GregW

It's made from dried cow blood. Seriously. A client asked me to develop a product using it (but it never went to market).

They take the blood plasma that's collected at slaughter houses, and then filter the protein out and dry it out as a powder.

It's pretty disgusting (at least I think it is), but it is essentially just another protein source and is manufactured under USDA sanitary guidelines (as long as its US sourced).

God damn this just grossed me out and I was about to take some right now. You say that the protein is filtered out and dried as powder, but this stuff these LBA's that I have are all just liquid syrup -- it essentially looks, tastes, and feels like hershey's chocolate syrup. So now it feels like I'm just drinking cow blood with food coloring lol... fuk

Originally Posted by GregW

they also have chicken plasma-protein available. the thing is, there are a bunch of different grades of the beef plasma protein (sorta like WPC34, WPC80, WPI90, etc). There's a huge difference in quality b/w the different grades (transparency of taste, protein % content, "other" % content, etc) & huge price differential b/w the grades. It might be something to consider.

Thanks for the info, I want to look in to this and the stuff that I'm using to see if it's high grade -- Based on the reviews that I've read of it and people claiming good results I'm assuming it's a higher grade because of it's supposed high bioavailability.

Originally Posted by smartpowders

I don't see a bulk protein supplier is in business given the regulatory environment. There is no possible way to do a custom mix and even come close to compliance.

So are you saying that this company is most likely not compliant with manufacturing regulations?

Puppy prefers elite whey like smartpowder is talking about .
Prop65 compliant

Who cares about cow blood ?
Only thing that matters if it's some quality shit (no contaminants), and if it gives results.

Actually, pork blood is really tasty
Black pudding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Deleted

Who cares about cow blood ?
Only thing that matters if it's some quality shit (no contaminants), and if it gives results.

Actually, pork blood is really tasty
Black pudding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm just grossed out by it for some reason - just going to try not to think about it.

Originally Posted by -Z-

The only difference TP's LBA's will make is from the glycerol.

yea apparently that is what creates the pumps

Originally Posted by smartpowders

Anyone that understands the new laws knows there is NO way to be compliant and do custom 1 off blends, period. Email and ask them if they are compliant. Ask if they put an expiration date on it. They'd need stability testing to do that, which is impossible when all the different variations. They'd need retention samples on each incase of a recall, etc, etc, etc.

I see - I might actually go ahead and email them asking these questions.

Originally Posted by Beejis60

Awwww shit.... where's Phil Herman?

lol somebody get that guy in here to answer these questions

Originally Posted by Beejis60

Beware what you ask. Seriously. Guy is worse than ross. And he 'recommends' you to drink 50g as a meal, something like 3-6 times a day.

stupiderest than ross/10

lol yea i was being sarcastic, i've seen some of his posts on promuscle - dude is pushing these LBAs like crazy, claiming their god's gift to bodybuilding.. well not exactly but I'm paraphrasing.

Originally Posted by GregW

who is phil herman?

I think Phil Hernon is his name

I dont think adding glycerol to protein and calling it "super awesome protein because it gives me mad pumps, fullness, and vascularity" is very impressive.

I could throw arginine in my whey and say "man this is the most badass preworkout whey ever! but in the end, it's just the arginine and plain ass macronutrient protein.

BOTTOM LINE: If a protein does ANYTHING other than add a macronutrient to your diet, its not just protein. So dont credit protein with something protein didnt do. Just add some damn glycerol to your whey if you want the same effect at a lower price.

Originally Posted by HomeGrown

I will see if I can get som answers here . I will shoot Doug Dante and Carl an email with this thread in it .

By the way it is now TrueNutrition

thanks dude - I'm just curious that's all because I would love to continue using this product with no qualms.