have you tried l-theanine for improving mood ?

how much did u take ?

what are your thoughts on it ?

looking at 5-htp, it seems that it would make one sleepy.

would l-theanine improve mood while avoiding the sleepiness ? would this also be possible with a small dose of 5-htp ?

Meh. ive tried it prebed and wasn't completely impressed. I personally prefer GABA/phenibut for mood

gaba for mood? Never heard of that. I love it for sleep.

i tried gaba before, didn't do much for me. like i said, i'm looking for something that doesn't make me sleepy.
would coupling 50-100mg 5-htp with some form of caffeine do the trick ?

Rather use phenibut sparingly, or picamilon.

Originally Posted by Dr.Abs

i tried gaba before, didn't do much for me. like i said, i'm looking for something that doesn't make me sleepy.
would coupling 50-100mg 5-htp with some form of caffeine do the trick ?

GABA never made me sleepy... it just helps me hit deep REM. At least, that's the way I feel in the morn.

If you're looking for a mood, dump your bish, fap more, fap less, do some drugs, pull the string, etc. I seriously doubt supps help with "mood" per se.

I've used the NOW suntheanine & it didn't provide any noticeable FX. Maybe it'll work for you, I don't know. The NOW stuff is fairly cheap so it may be worth a shot.

L-theanine, SAMe, ashwaghanda, rhodiola are all supposed to create a positive mood effect. They don't do much on their own if you're functioning normally. However, if you're under the weather and stressed out, I've noticed that their benefits are significantly more pronounced.

What kind of mood FX are you looking for? Something to make you feel 'high'? Or just relieve stress?

Originally Posted by NomZ

Rather use phenibut sparingly, or picamilon.

iirc both are similar/related to GABA, plus having to use sparingly => do not want

Originally Posted by Beejis60

GABA never made me sleepy... it just helps me hit deep REM. At least, that's the way I feel in the morn.

it didn't make me sleepy per se, but having to take it at bed time, then the tingles & shortness of breath...not worth what u get out of it imo

Originally Posted by GregW

I've used the NOW suntheanine & it didn't provide any noticeable FX. Maybe it'll work for you, I don't know. The NOW stuff is fairly cheap so it may be worth a shot.

L-theanine, SAMe, ashwaghanda, rhodiola are all supposed to create a positive mood effect. They don't do much on their own if you're functioning normally. However, if you're under the weather and stressed out, I've noticed that their benefits are significantly more pronounced.

What kind of mood FX are you looking for? Something to make you feel 'high'? Or just relieve stress?

thanks for the input; i do like NOW products in general, so if i'm gonna try something new, i usually go look if they make it.

not looking for a high, more of a stress relieve, stay calm/cool..

Originally Posted by Dr.Abs

it didn't make me sleepy per se, but having to take it at bed time, then the tingles & shortness of breath...not worth what u get out of it imo

Taking too much. I'm guessing you're at roughly 5g? Drop it back to 3.

Originally Posted by Beejis60

Taking too much. I'm guessing you're at roughly 5g? Drop it back to 3.

nope, back when i tried it, i had 750mg caps:
1 didn't do much of anything, 2 just some tingles & not much else, 3 noticeable tingles & shortness of breath
i think taking it on an empty stomach made these effects more pronounced as well

Originally Posted by Dr.Abs

not looking for a high, more of a stress relieve, stay calm/cool..

then eliminate caffeine from your diet and take an adaptogen like ashwaghanda or rhodiola

Originally Posted by GregW

then eliminate caffeine from your diet and take an adaptogen like ashwaghanda or rhodiola

i love my coffee way too much to even try that

i ended up getting some primaforce PEA & 5HTP that i will be stacking for the desired effect, maybe washed down with a cup of coffee or two.

if that shit doesn't do the trick, i'll write a review bashing the shit out of the aformentioned products, u mad smartpowders, u maaaaadd ???

Just downed some phenibut, gaba, L-dopa, melatonin and a few benedryls

if this doesnt put you in a fucking awesome mood then tell me what does

PEA gets you amped, not the "more of a stress relieve, stay calm/cool.."

Originally Posted by GregW

PEA gets you amped, not the "more of a stress relieve, stay calm/cool.."

i know it's a mild stim, idea of stacking with the 5htp is cancel out or prevent the sleepiness 5htp might cause

Originally Posted by MEATHEAD

Just downed some phenibut, gaba, L-dopa, melatonin and a few benedryls

if this doesnt put you in a fucking awesome mood then tell me what does

change name to METHHEAD NAO !!

Originally Posted by Dr.Abs

nope, back when i tried it, i had 750mg caps:
1 didn't do much of anything, 2 just some tingles & not much else, 3 noticeable tingles & shortness of breath
i think taking it on an empty stomach made these effects more pronounced as well

Damn... strange. At 5g with food, I notice that. But 3ish, I don't notice any. I guess I handle gaba fine, but am extremely uber sensitive to melatonin.

Originally Posted by Beejis60

Damn... strange. At 5g with food, I notice that. But 3ish, I don't notice any. I guess I handle gaba fine, but am extremely uber sensitive to melatonin.

lol u know what's even more strange ?
one time i tried a sample or two of prolabs' sleep formula called REM which had 3mg melatonin & some valerian root, slept good, woke up refreshed & gtg.
on the other hand, first 2-3 times i took a full dose of ZMA i slept through my alarm, i lowered dose to 2 caps & i could wake up on time but kinda groggy & slow to start. mind you the sleep quality was ok, but not worth how i felt in the morning.

Ya, vanessa gave me some of that sleep shit. Couldn't use it; fawks with my thyroid.

I never had any noticeable effects from L-Theanine. Phenibut has noticeable effects, but I don't like the fact I can't use consistenty. Picamilon was a VERY subtle effect for me, but I believe it took the edge off. PEA really increases my mood, but I'm also much more energetic so I'm not sure if that will be ideal for you. I don't know much about 5-HTP, we'll see how that works for you (especially stacked with PEA)

Originally Posted by D3B

I never had any noticeable effects from L-Theanine. Phenibut has noticeable effects, but I don't like the fact I can't use consistenty. Picamilon was a VERY subtle effect for me, but I believe it took the edge off. PEA really increases my mood, but I'm also much more energetic so I'm not sure if that will be ideal for you. I don't know much about 5-HTP, we'll see how that works for you (especially stacked with PEA)

i actually wouldn't mind feeling more energetic from the PEA, as long as it doesn't raise bp or cause a headache..will report on the combo when i try it.