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    Exclamation The Battle in Congress over our access to supplements

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    July 30, 2009

    Special report from the nutrition and dietary supplement industry's most exclusive conference



    Unbeknownst to the millions of consumers who rely on nutritional supplements on a daily basis for optimal health and peak performance, a cadre of top-level executives and leaders in the health, nutrition and dietary supplement industry recently met to safeguard fair and legal access to vitamins, herbs and amino acids.

    Convened in a nondescript ballroom of a Southern California hotel, the subject of this year's Nutrition Business Journal Summit centered around the siege that the supplement industry has been experiencing of late, courtesy of Capitol Hill. A quote from long-time supplement industry adversary Rep. Henry Waxman's (D - CA) new book, The Waxman Report, set the tone for the type of adversity that industry insiders as well as consumers are facing.

    "As policy, DSHEA [Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act] has been every bit as harmful as we feared, demonstrating anew that any market lacking regulation or the need to ensure safety quickly sinks to the lowest common denominator."

    While none of Mr. Waxman's "lowest common denominator's" were in attendance, the biggest names in sports nutrition retail were representing: Joe Fortunato, CEO of General Nutrition Centers (GNC); Tom Tolworthy, CEO of Vitamin Shoppe; and Jeremy DeLuca, President of Bodybuilding.com were all present and participating. They and the entire NBJ Summit assembly are well aware of what lies on the horizon: The right to take an active participatory role in one's health, and one of its guardian angel bills, DSHEA, may be in for the fight of its life.

    Addressing the assembly on the final day, and flying the flag of The Coalition to Preserve DSHEA (Coalition to Preserve DSHEA and Save Our Supplements - Protect Your Access to Safe, Effective & Affordable Dietary Supplements), was the CEO of GNC, Joe Fortunato. Most dramatically, Mr. Fortunato brought with him a video addressed to this year's Summit members from Rep. Waxman's bitter rival (on this subject) and co-sponsor of DHSEA, Utah Senator Orrin Hatch (R) who further echoed the severity of the issue:

    "The benefits that DSHEA brought to industry and consumers alike are on the verge of being rolled back to an era before its enactment in 1994."

    Senator Hatch is referring to a dark period when the possibility of long and expensive pre-market approval, similar to what pharmaceuticals go through, was proposed for even the simplest of supplements such as vitamin C and essential amino acids. Senator Hatch went on to say that he will continue his fight, but that he needs the support of other members of the House and Senate - members of whom you and I are constituents and need to contact repeatedly.

    In other words, it seems as an upcoming battle to preserve DHSEA is inevitable so arming yourself with the facts about dietary supplements is important if you want to preserve access to these products.

    For starters, the dietary supplement industry is in fact regulated, contrary to what some media outlets, doctors and politicians would have you believe. In fact, it's regulated by the FDA. Also overlooked by those critical of the industry is the recent enactment of new cGMPs (Current Good Manufacturing Practices) for most of the companies that manufacture your dietary supplements.

    This means more stringent testing, cleaning and documentation protocols - all to insure consumer safety and product purity through traceability and accountability. However, if you only paid attention to recent media smears and the very few good old fashioned royal screw-ups, you may think that the supplement industry is a den rife with charlatans, ne'er do-wells and Somali pirates. That simply isn't representative of the entire industry, regardless what folks such as Waxman and others would have you believe.

    To stay informed and join the fight, check out organizations like the Coalition to Preserve DSHEA and contact your Congressmen and state Senators. You can also visit your local nutrition retailer to find out how you can help preserve your access to safe and effective dietary supplements.
    Unless you are one of the few who thinks that everthing from caffeine to whey protein to creatine should cost you as much as a prescription medication, you ALL should be contacting your senators AND representatives about this issue. DON'T WAIT FOR IT TO COME UP IN CONGRESS. By then it is too late. You need to contact them early so that if a bill does come up, they will already have a clear idea of how to vote for or against it.

    U.S. Senate: Senators Home

    United States House of Representatives, 111th Congress, 1st Session

    You should use some points that are listed in the article such as:

    -The double standard that exists between pharmaceutical drug's adverse event warnings (think of Alli, in which users were told to continue use regardless of documented incidences of liver failure known to be caused by Alli see here) and the supplement industry's products (think Hydroxycut in which far fewer people had any problems in which the vast majority of the 23 cases were because of elevated liver enzymes possibly indicating liver problems but the FDA warned to discontinue use immediately see here).

    -The new cGMP standards should put to rest any fear of contamination, etc.

    -We as Americans wish to have a choice in the care of our bodies and believe that supplements can help lead a healthy lifestyle.

    -That DSHEA is perfectly fine, as long as it is enforced, as it has not been.

    -That the FDA already regulates the supplement industry, but have been either unable or unwilling to regulat it. The answer is NOT more regulation.

    -That media stories of people becoming sick after taking a supplement are exaggerated and that more people are hurt by alcohol, tobacco, and aspirin than they are by any type of supplement.


    For more information
    Coalition to Preserve DSHEA
    Council for Responsible Nutrition-The Science Behind the Supplements
    ::: UNPA - United Natural Products Alliance :::
    Natural Products Association:

    What is also disconcerting is the new bill introduced by Senator McCain, titled Dietary Supplement Safety Act (DSSA). This bill will eventually be the end of the supplement industry as we know it. Emailing your senators, as well as senator McCain is of the upmost importance at this time.

    You can find more information in this thread at bodybuilding.com: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=122641431

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    the email i just received

    March 5, 2010

    Your Victory on the McCain Bill


    We did it!

    It's all thanks to the action that you took.
    Hundreds of thousands of messages poured into the Senate opposing Senator McCain's bill, the bill that would have wiped out current legislative protections for dietary supplements. More and more messages were arriving by the day. The entire Congress began to take note. Senator McCain was embarrassed by our ad whose headline pointed out that he was misrepresenting and did not seem to understand his own bill.
    Word is now racing around Capitol Hill that Senator McCain met with Senator Orin Hatch, a champion of natural medicine, and told him that he is withdrawing his support for the bill he authored, the so-called Dietary Supplement Safety Act (S 3002). This means that the bill as written is now dead.
    Is this the end of the story? No. Having given his word to a fellow senator, McCain is not likely to resume his support for the bill. But we do need to see a declaration from McCain himself. We will need to see if McCain will try to offer some modified version of the bill. And there has also been no word from the other co-sponsor of the bill, Senator Dorgan.
    We will keep you posted. In the meantime, it is time to celebrate your accomplishment. The democratic process worked. The people spoke and a powerful senator reversed course. It was all because of you, the active citizens willing to take time and make the effort to defend natural and sustainable forms of health and healthcare in the often hostile environment of Washington, DC. As we all know, Washington is ringed today with special commercial interests. They have millions of dollars of campaign contributions to hand out and gigantic lobbying budgets. But in the end, politicians have to answer to the people.
    Thank you!
    Gretchen DuBeau, Executive Director
    Hunter Lewis, President

    Alliance for Natural Health USA

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    Got the same shit

    I too emailed mY state reps and each responded in agreement with me that the GOV need not dig into the OTC supp issue

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    Email sent.

    Nothing more than a money issue IMO.

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    I am all for safe and effective supps, but that McCain bill's bad bad bad. Seems our elected congressmen are ignorant about the subject, and they need to be educated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macrobolic View Post
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    Unless you are one of the few who thinks that everthing from caffeine to whey protein to creatine should cost you as much as a prescription medication, you ALL should be contacting your senators AND representatives about this issue. DON'T WAIT FOR IT TO COME UP IN CONGRESS. By then it is too late. You need to contact them early so that if a bill does come up, they will already have a clear idea of how to vote for or against it.

    U.S. Senate: Senators Home

    United States House of Representatives, 111th Congress, 1st Session

    You should use some points that are listed in the article such as:

    -The double standard that exists between pharmaceutical drug's adverse event warnings (think of Alli, in which users were told to continue use regardless of documented incidences of liver failure known to be caused by Alli see here) and the supplement industry's products (think Hydroxycut in which far fewer people had any problems in which the vast majority of the 23 cases were because of elevated liver enzymes possibly indicating liver problems but the FDA warned to discontinue use immediately see here).

    -The new cGMP standards should put to rest any fear of contamination, etc.

    -We as Americans wish to have a choice in the care of our bodies and believe that supplements can help lead a healthy lifestyle.

    -That DSHEA is perfectly fine, as long as it is enforced, as it has not been.

    -That the FDA already regulates the supplement industry, but have been either unable or unwilling to regulat it. The answer is NOT more regulation.

    -That media stories of people becoming sick after taking a supplement are exaggerated and that more people are hurt by alcohol, tobacco, and aspirin than they are by any type of supplement.


    For more information
    Coalition to Preserve DSHEA
    Council for Responsible Nutrition-The Science Behind the Supplements
    ::: UNPA - United Natural Products Alliance :::
    Natural Products Association:

    What is also disconcerting is the new bill introduced by Senator McCain, titled Dietary Supplement Safety Act (DSSA). This bill will eventually be the end of the supplement industry as we know it. Emailing your senators, as well as senator McCain is of the upmost importance at this time.

    You can find more information in this thread at bodybuilding.com: Our supplements in danger...McCain needs to be put out to pasture..... - Bodybuilding.com Forums


    I hate to tell you folks this but the pharmacutical industry has way more money than the supplement industry they line your state representatives pockets with wads of cash.

    You can email or protest all you like but when's the last time a politician ACTUALLY listened to the people???

    That bill will rear its ugly head again when it becomes convenient or when another supplement company royally fucks up and puts another illegal prohormone in their products.
    Last edited by Vince Goodrum; 08-29-2010 at 08:51 PM.

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    Here is something I sent to mine, which I have done everytime one of these Bills come out. My shitty senators just dont get it.

    “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

    If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."- Thomas Jefferson

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    tell u the truth guys, i believe only a few drugs should be off limits for the general public like heroin, cocaine, morphine...that kind of super hardcore drugs

    other than that, stuff should be available OTC & requiring only a consultation with the pharmacist selling u the stuff...that simple, just so u know what ur putting in ur body, not to decide if u can buy the stuff or not

    the issue i see with that would only be with insurance companies opposing such a policy due to increased chance of illness, accidents, death, etc....but then again it'd be solved by them adding a "freedom of usage" clause to whichever policy u have with them, whereby, for an extra 5% or something on ur monthly payment, u can put whatever u want in ur body & they have to cover u
    regardless.

    nonetheless, as much as i encourage giving ppl the freedom to put whatever they please in their bodies, i strongly believe that for the above policy to work:

    a- it would require developing a better set of criteria to evaluate the safety of any given product before it can be made available for sale ( this alone would make for a separate discussion full of opposing opinions..)

    b- it would also require that ALL products undergo lab analysis to determine whether they do contain the compound(s)/ingredient(s) in the corresponding amounts, as listed on the label

    c- for the above points (a) & (b) to be easily applied, there should be more of a focus on the validity of the scientific data presented as proof for meeting safety requirements & label claims & less complication in the processing of such matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Goodrum View Post
    You can email or protest all you like but when's the last time a politician ACTUALLY listened to the people??? That bill will rear its ugly head again when it becomes convenient or when another supplement company royally fucks up and puts another illegal prohormone in their products.
    They actually have listened according to this article:

    Here’s proof that the political process can work: Capitol Hill is talking about what ANH-USA supporters have been able to accomplish with the dietary supplement and food safety bills. But there’s much more work to be done.

    A seasoned Capitol Hill observer said this past week, “It was ANH-USA supporters who stopped the anti-supplement McCain bill.” You also saw to it that the Codex provision of the Senate Food Safety Bill was amended and that Waxman FTC Power Expansion Provision was kept out of the Finance Reform bill. Now, working together, we have gotten the Leahy bill amended in a very important way—it will no longer be possible to use the bill’s language to send a supplement producer to jail for ten years just for citing some legitimate science. That’s a big improvement.


    Even so, the Leahy bill needs to be amended further—it’s still a bad bill. We have been in contact with Senator Leahy’s office and are working through what should be removed and included in the Food Accountability Act, so that the real perpetrators of foodborne illnesses and crimes can be prosecuted without giving the FDA a green light to go after completely innocent food and supplement producers.


    You may have read elsewhere that both the Food Safety Modernization Act (S. 510) and Leahy’s bill have been “stopped.” That is incorrect. The Food Safety bill is definitely a priority for the Senate—it’s third on their list of bills they want to consider—and the only question is whether they can get to it and meld it with the very bad House bill before this Congress expires. Congress has just adjourned, and its members are headed back home to campaign. When they return on November 15, they will have only a short time—called a “lame duck” session”—to pass whatever bills they can before the new Congress is sworn in on January 3.


    One red flag: Congress will need to approve a massive omnibus funding bill before the end of the year to keep the government running. And it is commonplace for smaller bills to be tacked on as riders totally unrelated to government funding. Because the spending bill has to be passed, lawmakers sometimes sneak in controversial bills that might be defeated if they were considered separately. So we have to be very watchful.


    Since Congress is not in session and there is no one in DC reading constituent mail, we’re not asking you to send any more Action Alert messages to the Senate for the time being. But get ready and mark November 15 on your calendar for when Congress comes back to town. We’ll be sure to ask you to take further action with Congress then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macrobolic View Post
    They actually have listened according to this article:

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    It will be passed using the standard middle of night vote near end of session or budget debate. . .

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    lol another thing the government tries to get hands in

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    Glad the system actually worked for the people for once. BIG government is such a fail.

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    the gov just has to fuck off n let us be super humans!

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    ^definitely not Hemingway-like. Can't even understands those words you put together to form "sentences."

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    Must be a cheap migrant worker from south america. Cheap. Cheap.

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